Politics: Leaving Iraq?

I think the real debate is over. Iraq is a basket case. We let rioting and looting and mafias go unchecked. This eventually became rampant official corruption and religious warfare. Rumsfeld is an incompetent liar and his boss is an incompetent idiot. There's no solution which doesn't involve Iraqis killing lots of other Iraqis from this point.

So how ready is the Iraqi Army to fight without the US organizing and supporting them? We only began training the Iraqis how to provide logistics (food, ammo, transport, etc) last year. Is Bush serious about building an Iraqi Army? Shouldn't this have begun in early 2004? The Iraqis won't have much money to buy those supplies considering they have to buy oil from other countries. And their Air Force consists of a few attack helicopters and some cargo airplanes. Don't expect them to provide precision bombing.

The biggest problem is the loyalty of the troops. Their Army is full of traitors who place their loyalty to their local clans and religious leaders.

As soon as foreign troops leave, Iraq will become a slogging match between local warlords to dominate the country. At this point I doubt that the national Iraqi Army is going to be a player in that competition. The problem is that we're depending on our same leaders who are losing the war to train the Iraqis to win it.